Mouryou no Hako was better when I could see

I started watching Mouryou no Hako back in 2008. The show was great. My eyes were great. Unfortunately, neither was meant to last. Subbing for the show quickly slowed to a halt. At the time I couldn’t believe that fansubbers were running from a lesbian murder mystery. Now I can’t blame them. I wouldn’t be able to stomach subbing all that spirit bullshit either.

After two straight episodes of the seemingly ceaseless spirit snoozefest, the show finally gets back to its lesbian murder mystery roots. From that point on my only major complaint is that the spirit otaku solves the whole thing almost single-handedly. What’s the point of the other three guys if they’re just going to be useless and fail to hook up with the females of my choosing?

They’re clearly in love

Final Grade: ++

For the record, just because I’m making fun of a show doesn’t mean I think it sucks. If anything, I’m substantially more critical of good shows because they’re the ones that are most often overrated and undercriticized. I rarely write a post for the sole purpose of making fun of a crappy show unless I’m seriously pissed off at it. Besides, I’m perceptive enough to bash anything I watch, so there’s no need for me to pick the low-hanging fruit.

I shall conclude with a story about how Mouryou no Hako protected my chastity. One of my sister’s horny friends was trying to rape me. Somehow I convinced her that the only way I’d allow her to spend time around me was if she watched anime. She agreed, so I put on an episode of Mouryou no Hako. She said exactly three things during the episode:

  • Are they lesbians?
  • They have huge eyes.
  • This is confusing…

I hate people who talk while I watch anime. Thankfully, she left with two minutes remaining in the episode. My loins remain unspoilt to this day.

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  1. Chikorita157 says:

    Needs more yuri…

    Nice chart by the way.

  2. mefloraine says:

    Hmm, you have to expect laymen to talk through anime episodes.
    They just do not understand. Tsk tsk.

  3. This is on my list and I have the show downloaded. Good work on the chart, somehow I don’t feel spoilered. Also, too bad about your boy Nash and his team. They did score 107 points, but the Hanners had such a deep bench by dipping into forums for votes.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      Good work on the chart, somehow I don’t feel spoilered.

      Good, I thought I crossed the line with the “one guys solves the whole thing” remark.

      Nash was so used to winning with only one eye that he had a hard time adjusting back to two. Don’t worry, he’ll be back.

  4. Shinmaru says:

    Those two episodes of long-ass conversation wore on me, too. There are parts that are interesting, but it’s a gamble that didn’t really pay off for me. There’s a bit too much talking in general with Mouryou no Hako; however, the story is pretty crazy, the characters are good and the atmosphere is off the charts. I liked it a lot.

    And, yes, the lesbian murder mystery. :p

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      At the end of the day I’m a plot man. Good plot = good show. Mouryou no Hako has it. To tell the truth, the fact that the spirit otaku solves the whole thing actually bothers me more than the spirit filler. The first is a plot problem. The second is a writing/directing problem.

  5. g0rth0r says:

    That series was pretty great, despite the couple of flaws. It was actually the first show I ever watched with French subs (even though I’m actually French), since the English ones were just slow as an ass.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      I was so into this series at first that I might’ve been tempted to watch it in French myself (even though I barely know any). Instead I went the opposite route and swore off watching it until all the episodes were subbed. A series this complex wasn’t meant to be spaced out. Even a one week break between episodes is too much.

  6. Gunstray says:

    Lesbian murder mystery, damn main stream anime to hell, or Im blaming myself for simply not knowing

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      It’s not like you can tell it’s a lesbian murder mystery from the title. Mouryou no Hako means something along the lines of Box of Goblins. What does that have to do with lesbians? Oh wait.

  7. digital boy says:

    Nice. You’ve finally finished it. Now it’s up to me.

  8. keikakudoori says:

    Lesbians + Murder Mystery. They should’ve gone right ahead and added that the official show description. Seriously, how could I have missed this!?

    I haven’t had the pleasure of watching this (getting pumped up by the description) but I do not see how this show could even go wrong, except what you just mentioned why it partially does. Still, nice to hear there’s some potential to the show that I will now proceed to put on my plan to watch list.

    Now, I wish Ghost Hunt HAD lesbians. But I guess we can’t have everything.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      Indeed, you can’t have everything.

      I didn’t expect the lesbians either. Needless to say I was pleasantly surprised.

      It has now come to my attention that Ghost Hunt is streaming free on Hulu. It’ll now take a little longer for my eyes to recover.

  9. OBALLER says:

    lesbian murder mystery sounds cool. so ill put this on the list.

    also… you should have just nailed that horny bitch THEN proceeded to tell you she was not allowed to spend time around you. or wait… is that why all girls i’ve had sex with now hate me?

  10. lolikitsune says:

    Awesome. I’ll finish watching this someday.

  11. Omisyth says:

    What, you mean they don’t hook up? I FUCKING KNEW I SHOULD’VE AVOIDED THIS POST UNTIL I FINISHED THE SHOW.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      Before I sold out, I used asterisks at the end of each post title to indicate the spoiler level:

      * May contain spoilers. Read at your own discretion.
      ** Contains MAJOR spoilers. Read at your own discretion.

      This post would’ve only had the single asterisk. Suck it up.

  12. gaguri says:

    As much as I love Mouryou no Hako, I actually (like I almost always do) agree with the blind raptor. Except that the spirit otaku is damn awesome AFTER he’s done useless chatting in earlier episodes.

    *your second link is dead

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      The spirit otaku was totally badass when he busted into that temple and wrecked that old dude. I also respect him for solving the mystery at the end, but don’t you think it would’ve been nice if some of the others contributed a bit? My main beef was with the blond guy. He was plenty capable and still didn’t do anything. At least we knew the glasses guy was useless, and at least the police guy pushed the plot forward.

  13. otou-san says:

    honestly, I’m a little sad the “asexual adventures” tag didn’t have any more posts. I mean, who doesn’t want to hear about adventures?

  14. Seconding what otou-san said. I was expecting a glorious epic that makes Odysseus kneel down and cry, though I suppose surviving for 65 million years past your time is awesome enough.

    But yeah, this series really captured my attention… then fell off the map due to subs not keeping up. Guess I have a reason to return to it with this seal of approval.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      I was just testing the waters. I feared my adventures may have been too adventurous for you all to handle. Just look, there are only 15 comments so far. Some of my readers must’ve suffered heart attacks.

      You’ll have a lot of fun analyzing the music in this series. It’s not like there’s better to do during the spirit filler.

  15. chii says:

    i liked the show alright. the thing that made me the happiest was getting a special screen shot of the cat showing some naughty bits! *swoon*

  16. Glo says:

    Somehow, this has inspired me to finally watch Hikaru no Go.

  17. kluxorious says:

    I have been using anime as my chastity belt whenever I feel the need to protect my womenhood from moronic dickhead

  18. What an awesome way of how this series saved you xD

    I need to catch up on this series…. if only the subs didn’t halt for too long that time =_= But I don’t remember being annoyed/bored on the spirit talk like most people…. hhhmmm… ah, maybe ‘coz I like spirit stuff as much as mystery. ehehe ^^;

  19. Salsk says:

    …and once more, Baka-Raptor’s chastity remains protected.

    I’ll check this show out, long-winded conversations about spirits sounds just like Bakemonogatari anyway.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      Well, at least Bakemonogatari distracts you with fancy visuals. The spirit talk in Mouryou no Hako makes you feel like you’re watching a university lecture.

  20. Yi says:

    Lesbians!? I’m in! I’ll just skip the sausage fest in the middle and this should be an excellent series.
    Btw. I wish you the best about your eyes. Good luck.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      That sad truth is that you could probably cut out all the spirit filler without missing a damn thing. You don’t need to know anything about spirits to follow the plot, kind of like how you could watch Saki or Akagi without knowing how to play Mahjong.

  21. Caraniel says:

    Oh I remember how pissed off I was that the subs were so delayed for this show because I liked it a lot (and not just because of woo! CLAMP character designs!). I did watch it as each episode finally came out, but got utterly confused half the time and ended up marathoning it when it was complete anyway.

    Is it bad that I found the episodes where the 4 fellas were just sitting about chatting interesting?

  22. Laguna Loire says:

    I read most comments/replies and i don’t think your post alone would do the trick well without them. =)

    really, it is hard to have a girl watching anime with you if she isn’t shy/timid or loves anime, most girls aren’t interested in anything but boring TV shows and soap operas, that’s why my tactic to invite girls to play video-games was (and still is) a major sucess for years to come yet, of course, the wii is the perfect plataform to do this kinda trick because of its casual games that even a puny can play (mario kart for example) 😉

    now, for the chastity thing… it really makes sense, because there’re weeks that i “manage” to have free time every noon to watch animes and there’re whole weeks (like this past one), in which i haven’t seen a single episode in the whole week, because…well…you should know already 😉

    For the show alone, ++ would be enough to pick a new show to watch, but i preffer to pick the +++ ones, GUARANTEED SATISFACTION.

    Filler Comment Ratio 9/10

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      Sometimes I purposefully leave stuff out of my post because I know I’ll cover it in the comments. Even thought I’m not quite as lazy as I used to be, I’m still damn efficient.

      The problem you mentioned about girls is fundamentally the problem with most people: they’re boring. I can tolerate them if they like non-boring things (like anime and my site), but not if they make stupid comments about it.

  23. Guy says:

    So you’re “ronery”?

  24. Kyoin says:

    What did the 3 useless individuals do after the one guy solved the whole thing like the great Conan Edogawa?

  25. This show made about 800% more sense after I read the first book from the series it was adapted from (Mouryou no Hako is the second book). It was just easier to follow since I’d met everyone before and gotten to know them in the book, so it was easier for me to go back and re-read parts and get to understand the characters that way.

    The book I read, Natsu no Ubume (Summer of the Ubume in the English language release), also had some very long philosophical-style parts about spirits and people, etc. It was definitely a bit dense and difficult to follow, but it was simpler than trying to follow the similar moments in the Mouryou no Hako adaptation. I’d love to see the live action movie version to see how it handled all that.

    If you liked the anime, I really, really recommend reading Summer of the Ubume.

    • Baka-Raptor says:

      Reading is still rough on my eyes. I’m currently unliterate. I’ll add the book to the list of things I’ll do when my eyes get better. Right now it’s at #150, right after playing Ocarina of Time.

      I can listen to it now if it’s on audiobook. If it’s not, I’ll allow you to read the book to me, but only if you’re good at doing voices.

  26. Michael says:

    I hated this because no one finished subbing it for more than a year. I mean, I could have waited a few months, but I just forgot about it. I’ll watch this if I have time and I can still find seeds.

  27. DO YOU USE YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM OF CHOICE IN HIGH RESOLUTION OR WOULD THAT MAKE IT WORSE. I THINK MY VISION IS GOING TO SHIT TOO, I CAN’T GET NEW GLASSES UNTIL AUGUST

  28. Joe says:

    You should get the Anime Chastity Loin Locker. It has a picture of Asuka on it shouting “Baka!”

  29. you’d better steamroll hanner’s into nonexistence or I am going to steal your eyes which will give me even greater powers than before

  30. digital boy says:

    So I randomly decided I wanted to read your older posts that I hadn’t read before. I started from the post-sellout beginning and read you LoGH post. Everything was going fine until I got to this sentence.

    >>>Everything about this anime rules (except the graphics, but that’s because it’s old). Watch it.
    >>>except the graphics
    >>>graphics

    I just ragequit your archives.

  31. Janette says:

    Making people watch anime is almost as effective as a chastity belt.

    I’ve never heard of this. I’ll have to look it up. I always like lesbians.

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